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we're trying to look like I don't know

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how do you want to get here

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nobody like we've been driving I don't

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know how long we haven't even been

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talking which I just been sitting here

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and I'm not really too afraid

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except right now I am at that time I

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didn't feel as afraid

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[Applause]

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it's all right now

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you're safe here

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tell me about the men on the road wait

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we're driving along we're on a tide Road

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and all of a sudden without any water

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you're any reason to Rhyme or anything

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about it

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uh

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he always the pranks I think he would

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squeal these out so suddenly and pay

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left head turned

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to the highway and we went on to this

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yellow Road so I was wondering what he

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was doing down here but

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he wasn't saying he's thinking I wasn't

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I said well

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maybe we're lost but

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but somewhere

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and we're going to log

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and there was a sharp curved in the road

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[Applause]

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as we went around the curve

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there were trees there was a lot of tall

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tall trees on my side

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I don't know about Bobby's side of the

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there was these men

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and

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I wasn't too afraid when I saw him

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they were standing there

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and I thought well you know it

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was soundful there was

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and they were just

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but

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then I thought well you know are they in

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a car and a car broken down or

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what are they doing there

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and

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Barney could have said to stop

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and then

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he stops the car

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again these weird started to

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come up to the car

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they

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[Applause]

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they separated

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they came up in two groups

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I I get real scared

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yep the cow motor died the cast off

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yeah well they started coming up Valley

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you try to start it and you know how a

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mode of a cow would just turn over turn

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over I won't fire

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you did what he's trying to stop the car

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and it won't stop because I just

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hit him I think well

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I could get away from this I could if I

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get the car door off like a run of the

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woods inside

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and

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this

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[Applause]

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is what

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[Applause]

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foreign

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[Applause]

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okay

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well let me put his hands out

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I don't know what happened

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you can remember everything now

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what do these men look like could you

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see their faces

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no

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how were they dressed

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all right

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but I haven't won any uniform over there

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in ordinary clothes

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uniform is resemble any uniform you know

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I couldn't see

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there's a couple minutes behind me into

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this body

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it's about each item him

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and my eyes are open

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my body's still asleep he's walking and

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he's asleep

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thank you

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[Applause]

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good night you're gonna get mad

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and they go oh the heck are these

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characters and what do they think

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they're doing

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yeah so I turn around and I say oh hey

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wake up

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and he doesn't

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I think he's walking

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good

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I keep going a little bit further and I

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turn around and I say his name again

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body wake up

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he doesn't pay any attention and then

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the man

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who's watching besides me here

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says

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yeah

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that's her and I looked at this man and

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I think it's none of his business

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did we keep watching

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did I try to wake Bobby up again can you

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say about anybody wake up and he doesn't

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so the man said

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think she asked me again he said it's

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Bobby his name

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[Applause]

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he said don't be afraid

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you don't have any reason to be afraid

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[Applause]

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we're not going to have you

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we just want to

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with a chance to roll for which

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will take your body back and put you

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with your car

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you'll be on your way

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back home in no time

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good

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I mean he was

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he was sort of reassuring in a way but

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I wasn't

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trust me what he said

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but I wasn't sure what was going to

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happen and we kept walking and

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the body was still asleep and then

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you mean he was walking in his sleep

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yeah he was just like sleep watching

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these men spoke good English ugh

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only one spoke the water was on my left

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[Applause]

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he had an accent

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he he had sort of a foreign accent

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but he was very

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you know business-like yeah

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we came to

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experience

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and

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there was

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occasionally clearing as it was

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a better picture

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there was a ramp in the door

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there was a the object was on the grab

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the object was on the ground yeah I

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think it was to say what I was watching

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and it was

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there were trees there was a pass and

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there was this cleric and this object

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just oh the clearing I could see just

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and

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they're taking me up to the object now I

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don't want to go on up

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I don't want it I don't know what's

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going to happen if I go on it I don't

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and

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I go up the ramp

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another card

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we go up the corridor

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foreign

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[Applause]

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the room with this man who speaks

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English in me

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do they stay for a minute

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I don't know who they are I guess maybe

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they're the crew

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at the man who speaks English

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is fair and

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another man comes in

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I think he's a doctor

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and today

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they came in the door

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and I think he's got I don't know how I

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never said that but I hope that would

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never have never enough to go around

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kidnapping people right off the highways

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like he's done

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and

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[Applause]

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I

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he tells me to

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take off my dress

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and

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before I haven't even have a chance

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highly to

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stand up to do it the examiner it had my

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dress has to put down my back

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so yeah it has a zipper down the back

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and The Examiner unzipped right it goes

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way down to my wife does and so I slept

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my dress off

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as well I don't have my

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my dress all my shoes on

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and there's a

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next over

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ton store and then there's in the sort

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of in the middle of the room is it table

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from another table

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it's not that very high because I'll say

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so

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uh I lie down

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on the table on my back

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and

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difference over this

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oh how can I describe but

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they're like needles there's a whole

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cluster of needles and each needle has a

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so let me roll me over

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my back

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[Applause]

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and The Examiner okay has a long needle

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in his head

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it's bigger than any leader I've ever

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I asked him what he's going to do with

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it

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[Applause]

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and he said just a simple steps to vote

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to me

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and I ask him what and he said he just

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wants to put it in my name yeah it's

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just a simple test

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I don't know it will hurt don't do

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it

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[Applause]

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and I'm crying and I tell her it's hard

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and the leader

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it goes over and he puts his head rather

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and he says I'll be all right I won't

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and all the pay goes away

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[Applause]

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dead

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foreign

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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no you didn't

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no I asked the leader I said why did he

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think they don't why did they think the

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needle in my navel and he said it was a

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pregnancy test

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and I said well

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I don't know what they expected but that

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anymore

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[Applause]

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examiner with help he helped me get up

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off the table

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and I swung around

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and my he gave me my shoes

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[Applause]

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and

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I put those on

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and

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age

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and then

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oh I said

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I can go now

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and he said

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and so then I began to

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get

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worried and I kept I asked him

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why it was taking so long with Bonnie

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and he said well they were doing a few

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more tests with him

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and uh

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the

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mean

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he had gone out of the room

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they were just the leader in me there

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so there was a doctor there you say I

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and the man who did the examining

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he did the testing

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and he left

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and so there was just the Leader in Me

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and so

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uh I felt

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I mean I was grateful to him because he

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had

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stopped my pain and and now I wasn't

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and

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I started talking with the leader

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and I said to him

297
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that this had been

298
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[Applause]

299
00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:34,140
quite an experience

300
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:36,059
it was

301
00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:42,230
that no one

302
00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:46,380
would ever ever believe me

303
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,600
and that

304
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:50,880
most people

305
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:55,440
didn't even know he was alive

306
00:22:08,330 --> 00:22:03,169
what I needed was some proof

307
00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:11,090
so he left

308
00:22:16,490 --> 00:22:14,940
and he said well what kind of proof

309
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,500
did I want

310
00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:19,200
what would I like

311
00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:26,570
if he could give me something to take

312
00:22:33,169 --> 00:22:28,620
back with me

313
00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:35,930
that's what he told me to

314
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:42,350
and maybe I could find something

315
00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:44,050
I would like to take

316
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:46,860
[Applause]

317
00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:49,440
and I did

318
00:22:55,010 --> 00:22:52,620
and there wasn't much

319
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around but

320
00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:57,179
on the cabinet

321
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:02,470
a

322
00:23:10,810 --> 00:23:08,750
so

323
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:10,820
I I

324
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:13,919
put my hand on the book and I said could

325
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:15,530
I have this

326
00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:19,860
[Applause]

327
00:23:28,190 --> 00:23:24,600
and the leader laughed and he asked me

328
00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:28,200
if I thought I could read it

329
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,100
and I told him no I laughed too

330
00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:34,799
I said no

331
00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:38,820
but I wasn't taking it to read

332
00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:41,400
that this was going to be my proof that

333
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:42,550
this had happened

334
00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:47,820
[Applause]

335
00:23:52,370 --> 00:23:49,500
to

336
00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:52,380
this is my proof

337
00:23:57,409 --> 00:23:54,900
and so he said that

338
00:23:59,570 --> 00:23:57,419
I could I could have the book If I

339
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,580
wanted it

340
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:02,880
and I picked it up

341
00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:04,620
and

342
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,039
I was delighted I mean this was this was

343
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:10,640
one this was

344
00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:15,360
uh more than I'd ever hoped for he went

345
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:20,420
across the room

346
00:24:27,409 --> 00:24:22,260
[Applause]

347
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:28,610
and

348
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:31,679
there was he he did something he he

349
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,260
opened up uh

350
00:24:39,409 --> 00:24:36,480
wasn't like a draw

351
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,419
he sort of did something and and the

352
00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:42,000
metal of the wall

353
00:24:52,669 --> 00:24:45,240
as there was an opening

354
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:54,169
and

355
00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:56,760
he asked me

356
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:04,010
and I watched

357
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:10,070
and I leaned against the table and I

358
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:15,590
and it was a map of

359
00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:19,860
it was a oblong map

360
00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:29,450
the heavy lines would trade routes

361
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:32,370
and then the other lines

362
00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:35,520
[Applause]

363
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:40,440
the other like that the solid lines

364
00:25:48,169 --> 00:25:45,360
were places they went occasionally

365
00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:53,149
he said that

366
00:26:02,029 --> 00:25:55,730
broken lines

367
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:06,730
so I asked him

368
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:11,149
where he what

369
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:17,330
and

370
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:22,559
he said where's the where are you on

371
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,720
and

372
00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:30,720
[Applause]

373
00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:34,380
I looked and I laughed and I said I

374
00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:34,940
don't know

375
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:38,520
[Applause]

376
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:41,940
so he said well then

377
00:26:49,490 --> 00:26:46,559
if you don't know where you were

378
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:49,500
there wouldn't be any point

379
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:56,029
and

380
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:57,480
he put

381
00:27:05,169 --> 00:26:59,159
map

382
00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:05,179
in the space in the wall

383
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:14,269
and I felt very stupid

384
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:30,669
and

385
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:34,490
I asked him well could he show me could

386
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,080
he open up the map again and show me

387
00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:39,600
what the Earth was

388
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,010
and then

389
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,960
I still I got the book

390
00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:50,880
I still got the I'm carrying the book I

391
00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:53,340
got my eyes it's a big book

392
00:27:58,850 --> 00:27:56,940
I don't and so I went back to the

393
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,860
cabinet

394
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:01,200
and put the book down and started to

395
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,789
and

396
00:28:12,590 --> 00:28:10,970
then all of a sudden there's no ways out

397
00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:12,600
in the hall

398
00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:13,670
and

399
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:15,000
[Applause]

400
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:18,840
some of the other men come in

401
00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:23,700
and with them is The Examiner

402
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,740
and

403
00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:28,320
they're quite excited

404
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:30,539
so I asked the leader I said what's the

405
00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:32,940
matter it if something happened to

406
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,580
Bonnie what's what is that it's

407
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,919
something to do with Barney

408
00:28:42,049 --> 00:28:39,120
and

409
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:42,059
the the experiment

410
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:45,900
has me oh has me open my mouth

411
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:50,100
and he starts checking my teeth

412
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:53,520
ended up tugging at them

413
00:28:58,669 --> 00:28:55,860
and I asked him

414
00:29:00,769 --> 00:28:58,679
what are they trying to do

415
00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:00,779
what are they doing at them they would

416
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,900
try pulling tugging

417
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:05,760
yes

418
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:08,760
and the The Examiner

419
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:11,580
said that they were very he was very

420
00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:12,779
excited

421
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:20,289
he

422
00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:32,580
and I I was really laughing

423
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:35,000
[Applause]

424
00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:38,820
I said that Bonnie had dentures and I

425
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,220
didn't and that's why he's even come out

426
00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:47,269
it was like and so then they asked me

427
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:50,460
what were dentures

428
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,480
and I said that

429
00:30:01,490 --> 00:29:56,640
people

430
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,500
as they got older wash their teeth they

431
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:03,600
had to go to the dentist and have their

432
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:05,700
teeth extracted

433
00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:12,000
and they put in Dentures are a person

434
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:13,620
[Applause]

435
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,520
sometimes and Barney had to have

436
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:18,960
dentures because

437
00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:23,100
he had he injured he had a mouth injury

438
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:25,140
of some sight and he had to have his

439
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:28,140
teeth extracted all these things you

440
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:31,440
asked me I don't know I'm a very limited

441
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:33,240
person

442
00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:38,600
when talking trying to talk with you

443
00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:41,640
but there are other people in this

444
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,020
country

445
00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:46,080
who are not like me

446
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:49,500
that they would be most happy to talk

447
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:51,779
with him

448
00:31:00,409 --> 00:30:57,240
that they could answer all his questions

449
00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:04,310
maybe if he could come back

450
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:08,820
if we could make arrangements

451
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:11,039
for a meeting

452
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,640
I could maybe I could if he gave me time

453
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:15,840
enough

454
00:31:29,149 --> 00:31:27,169
and I could arrange to for him to meet

455
00:31:30,490 --> 00:31:29,159
them

456
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,500
and

457
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:32,640
[Applause]

458
00:31:37,549 --> 00:31:34,740
it would have to be gentle there'd be no

459
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:37,559
danger involved

460
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:40,260
I wouldn't

461
00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:48,409
that

462
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:50,279
I don't know how I could do it I don't

463
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:52,679
know how I could I'd work it out somehow

464
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:04,190
If he if he could come out

465
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,590
I want him to come back I want him to

466
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,279
[Applause]

467
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:12,720
they

468
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:22,070
and I will you come back

469
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:24,600
can we make

470
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:28,080
you can can we work out something and

471
00:32:33,889 --> 00:32:30,179
then his answers his questions would all

472
00:32:35,810 --> 00:32:33,899
have answers and and other people could

473
00:32:38,269 --> 00:32:35,820
get the things out all the things I'd

474
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:38,279
like to know too

475
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:41,220
and he says

476
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:44,220
I don't know

477
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:54,409
so I said well

478
00:33:03,529 --> 00:32:57,419
could you discuss it with the person

479
00:33:09,649 --> 00:33:06,529
and he said

480
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:09,659
and I said well

481
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:13,320
if you do decide to come back

482
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:17,039
I mean if it can be worked out

483
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,159
I would need time

484
00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:22,620
I I it would take some time I mean I

485
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:23,700
just couldn't

486
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,980
go out from the spirit of the moment and

487
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,320
round up people to meet with you it

488
00:33:33,769 --> 00:33:30,720
would have to be people that we knew

489
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:33,779
would be all right and and would have

490
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:35,880
the background enough

491
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:37,559
and

492
00:33:48,150 --> 00:33:45,850
if he like

493
00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:48,160
he said don't worry

494
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,380
[Applause]

495
00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:52,559
if we decide to come back

496
00:34:02,750 --> 00:33:59,990
but I said but I don't live around here

497
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:02,760
I don't live in this area

498
00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:04,860
and he said

499
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,600
we'll find you

500
00:34:11,930 --> 00:34:08,639
and I said how

501
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,940
how will you find me out of millions of

502
00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:13,919
people

503
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:16,919
and he said we will

504
00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:20,760
we always do find those we want to

505
00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:23,220
and I said well now what do you mean by

506
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:24,540
that remark

507
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:25,800
[Applause]

508
00:34:30,419 --> 00:34:33,250
and then

509
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:36,409
Bonnie's coming

510
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,940
they're bringing Bonnie out of I hear

511
00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:40,800
this I hear the men out in the corridor

512
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:43,619
and I said Bonnie's coming

513
00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:47,280
he said yes you can go back the car now

514
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,899
and I got the book

515
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,220
somebody's coming out and buying his

516
00:34:58,030 --> 00:34:56,159
eyes are still shut

517
00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:58,040
good Heavens

518
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,260
he's just an awful lot

519
00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:03,060
I wonder if he made her keep his

520
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:11,150
so

521
00:35:15,890 --> 00:35:13,730
they uh anyway uh

522
00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:15,900
now it's time to go back to the car and

523
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:17,460
the leader said come on we'll walk back

524
00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:19,380
to the car with you

525
00:35:23,329 --> 00:35:21,000
I said all right

526
00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:23,339
I said but I do wish

527
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:25,140
I wish I knew if you were going to come

528
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:27,000
back

529
00:35:31,069 --> 00:35:29,700
and he said well we'll see

530
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:31,079
and

531
00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:34,740
we're out into the corridor

532
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:35,900
I'm

533
00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:39,060
Barney's behind me and his eyes shut

534
00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:42,599
there's a man on each side of him

535
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:43,550
and

536
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,880
[Applause]

537
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:47,520
I'm starting I'm all ready to go down

538
00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:48,900
the ramp

539
00:36:02,089 --> 00:35:58,010
not that the leader but some of the

540
00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:04,069
I don't know what they say but they're

541
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,609
and the leader is saying he's he's

542
00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:12,720
saying something

543
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:23,030
just that they don't they're undecided

544
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,109
and then

545
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,970
oh

546
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:42,290
Jolena comes over and takes my book

547
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:46,190
and I said oh I'm furious

548
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:48,540
I said you promised me I could have the

549
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:50,180
book

550
00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:54,000
you gave me a word you I could have it

551
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:56,339
and he said I know it

552
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:00,000
he said but the others object

553
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,520
they don't want you to have it and I

554
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:05,040
said that this is my proof If you take

555
00:37:09,010 --> 00:37:06,960
the book away from me I'll have no proof

556
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:09,020
that this has happened

557
00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:13,020
and he said that's the whole point they

558
00:37:18,530 --> 00:37:14,780
don't want you to know what's happened

559
00:37:22,089 --> 00:37:18,540
they want you to forget all about it

560
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,099
and that's why I'm taking the

561
00:37:27,770 --> 00:37:25,200
I I won't forget about it

562
00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:27,780
you you could take the book but you

563
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:29,880
never never could make me forget about

564
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:32,640
it because I'll remember the last thing

565
00:37:38,570 --> 00:37:41,770
[Applause]

566
00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:46,150
but I want the book

567
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,250
he won't give it to me

568
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,990
he lies he he said

569
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,349
maybe you will remember

570
00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:03,359
I don't know I hope you don't but maybe

571
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:05,220
you will

572
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:09,060
but it won't do you any good if you do

573
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:12,180
because body won't body won't remember

574
00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:17,810
but not only that if he should remember

575
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:20,220
anything at all

576
00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:22,200
he's going to remember it differently

577
00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:24,680
from you

578
00:38:29,569 --> 00:38:27,180
and all you gotta do is get each other

579
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,579
so confused you won't know what's going

580
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:31,200
on

581
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:32,320
okay

582
00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:33,540
[Applause]

583
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:36,540
David do remember

584
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:39,839
it'd be better if you forgot it anyway

585
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,900
but I said why but you try to threaten

586
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:44,400
me

587
00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:57,790
so that is

588
00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:01,020
all right now come on let's go back to

589
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:06,050
we'll go back to the we'll take you back

590
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:07,290
to the car

591
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:08,579
[Applause]

592
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,050
and

593
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:12,720
[Applause]

594
00:39:18,109 --> 00:39:15,420
um I've been stared in there by the time

595
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:18,119
of the rep talking to him

596
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:26,150
I'm not so bad though

597
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:29,450
and they've taken body ahead

598
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:37,849
so he the other bit of going ahead

599
00:39:49,069 --> 00:39:45,770
he said you know he said I

600
00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:49,079
I had no objections to you having the

601
00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:50,820
book

602
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:53,880
but the others object

603
00:39:58,609 --> 00:39:56,640
if they have as much

604
00:40:10,190 --> 00:39:58,619
right

605
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:10,200
I won't be mad at you

606
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:18,770
it is the most I wish I could be able to

607
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:21,660
have some proof of this

608
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:24,960
because it's the most unbelievable thing

609
00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:30,770
very

610
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:32,099
the paragraph

611
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:34,859
can only determine what you believe to

612
00:40:41,630 --> 00:40:38,820
be so in trying to bridge from what you

613
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:41,640
believe to be so whether it is so or not

614
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,980
I think probably the best thing to use

615
00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:45,359
is the star map

616
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:48,180
at least the star map is something that

617
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,380
brings us into reality as those who have

618
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,660
never had your experience would know it

619
00:40:59,890 --> 00:40:57,119
in other words there is a map that you

620
00:41:02,930 --> 00:40:59,900
drew prior to the time

621
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:02,940
a couple of stars were discernible

622
00:41:06,970 --> 00:41:04,440
because they didn't have the equipment

623
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:06,980
in 61 or 65

624
00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:11,579
to see those stars and subsequently that

625
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:15,000
map became validated is that correct

626
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:18,480
okay I think that trying to bridge what

627
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:20,760
you believe to be so and what is in fact

628
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:23,460
so if we address the polygraph

629
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:26,400
examination to how you obtained the

630
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:28,980
information with which to draw the star

631
00:41:36,530 --> 00:41:32,460
map we might at least strike at some

632
00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:36,540
form of reality as a as opposed to your

633
00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:38,579
perception which you may think is very

634
00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:41,099
real but which may not in fact be real

635
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,020
so if we try to make the bridge with the

636
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,119
star map and we ask you questions along

637
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:47,760
the lines of did you obtain the

638
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:51,780
information to draw that star map from a

639
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,540
UFO and then reverse it did you obtain

640
00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,880
it to any other source we can determine

641
00:42:01,490 --> 00:41:58,680
what you at least believe in relation to

642
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:01,500
the star map and then what we've been

643
00:42:07,069 --> 00:42:04,740
using basically uh in these areas of

644
00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:07,079
psychic phenomena and

645
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:10,140
with some success is to ask you whether

646
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:11,880
or not you think this whole thing is a

647
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:14,579
hoax I think quickly we can strip away

648
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:19,859
if it is a hoax uh your belief is that

649
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,180
what you're saying is so when you know

650
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,400
in fact it isn't so but I think if we

651
00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:25,500
address the Examination for those two

652
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:28,619
areas we may at least be able to find

653
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:31,380
out if you believe that what you're

654
00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:34,680
saying is so and before I invite you to

655
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:36,900
take that test if someone came up to you

656
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:39,000
today and I'm sure many people have

657
00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:42,839
since you've become uh noteworthy in

658
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:45,660
this area and said I had an experience

659
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,060
or I was on a UFO what do you think of

660
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:49,920
those people today are they telling the

661
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:52,680
truth or not I would want a great deal

662
00:42:57,970 --> 00:42:55,320
more than just the presence word

663
00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:57,980
that the president

664
00:43:02,990 --> 00:43:01,260
tangible product of this uh this whole

665
00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:03,000
experience

666
00:43:07,069 --> 00:43:05,400
that has some substantiation quite apart

667
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:07,079
from anybody's arguments against all

668
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,880
this yeah so I think we could use that

669
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:11,760
effective nothing disparaging but I

670
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:13,680
would be derelict as a polygraph

671
00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:16,380
examiner if I didn't inquire into your

672
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:19,500
General Medical Health and as far as

673
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:21,300
your mental health let me ask you if

674
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,400
you're not reluctant to say have you

675
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,640
ever prior to this occurrence had

676
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,560
therapy or counseling or visited a

677
00:43:35,089 --> 00:43:32,160
psychiatrist no I'm a retired social

678
00:43:36,589 --> 00:43:35,099
worker I usually touch other people with

679
00:43:37,450 --> 00:43:36,599
but you never needed any treatment

680
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:37,460
yourself

681
00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:40,260
good enough for me let's try a few

682
00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:42,060
friends and lie to me about that star

683
00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:44,220
man yeah

684
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,099
[Music]

685
00:44:04,250 --> 00:43:55,200
if we receive that starmax information

686
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:07,190
any story first emerged under hypnosis

687
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,900
following Nightmares on her part and

688
00:44:13,730 --> 00:44:12,240
named unexplained deterioration in the

689
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,740
physical condition

690
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,839
of her husband Barney and his medical

691
00:44:21,070 --> 00:44:18,240
hypnotist the psychiatrist was

692
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:21,080
recommended and this is what he found

693
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,200
[Music]

694
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:24,720
we can only test whether or not she

695
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,000
believes this is a real recollection not

696
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,520
something that she made up or only

697
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,920
dreamed

698
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:33,839
regarding the original Star map

699
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:35,700
information did you obtain it from a

700
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:44,650
or from New Hampshire are typically

701
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:48,660
Swift and Direct in their answers

702
00:45:01,250 --> 00:44:50,700
do you believe this storm that story is

703
00:45:06,530 --> 00:45:03,710
test is over remain still for 10 seconds

704
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,540
please this is one of the charts Petty

705
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,160
that was actually collected on

706
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:10,079
television that our viewers could see

707
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,660
the first relevant question was did you

708
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:15,000
initially receive that star map

709
00:45:22,130 --> 00:45:18,839
information while on board a UFO you as

710
00:45:25,609 --> 00:45:22,140
you're not in your head said yes and we

711
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:25,619
see in the cardio tracing a downward

712
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:28,619
movement of the blood pressure as shown

713
00:45:32,809 --> 00:45:30,900
by measuring blood volume

714
00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:32,819
we contrast that with the question

715
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:35,900
before where there was a slight upswing

716
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:38,940
and more notably here in the respiration

717
00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:42,720
tracing we see a very long sustained

718
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,240
suppression when you answered the

719
00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:47,520
control question and almost nothing

720
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,500
happening when you answered the relevant

721
00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:52,020
question indicating a lack of stress for

722
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:53,880
what we call a lack of reaction to the

723
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:55,800
relevant question let's go to the second

724
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:56,940
question

725
00:46:01,849 --> 00:46:00,000
first

726
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,859
regarding the original storm map

727
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:03,599
information did you obtain it from a

728
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:07,440
source other than a UFO now when you

729
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,720
created the star map I don't believe

730
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:11,280
there were any sources that could have

731
00:46:15,710 --> 00:46:13,619
given you those two other stars but the

732
00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:15,720
question is what did you believe you

733
00:46:20,569 --> 00:46:17,819
said no you didn't get it from a source

734
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,579
other than UFO and there's absolutely

735
00:46:25,069 --> 00:46:23,040
nothing happening here in this cardio

736
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,079
tracing showing a lack of stress when

737
00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:27,599
you said no to that question but the

738
00:46:31,849 --> 00:46:29,339
question before we see that you're

739
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,859
capable of significant cardio response

740
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:33,839
because we see it here with this

741
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:36,240
tremendous upswing here again the

742
00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:38,280
respiration pattern there is that

743
00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:39,960
suppression that we noted in the earlier

744
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,420
question nothing happening in the

745
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:44,160
relevant question let's go to the third

746
00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:46,440
question dealing with whether or not you

747
00:46:51,309 --> 00:46:49,380
believe that your story is a hoax

748
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:51,319
what is that you believe your start

749
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,780
Matt's story is a hoax you said no blood

750
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,460
pressure's going down

751
00:47:02,089 --> 00:46:59,640
galvanic skin response shows six chart

752
00:47:04,609 --> 00:47:02,099
divisions and we contrast that with the

753
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,619
question before where you had many more

754
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:07,200
chart divisions in the galvanometer a

755
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,180
significant Baseline arousal in the

756
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:11,280
respiration tracing putting it all

757
00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:15,240
together Betty you believe what you're

758
00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:16,920
telling us and I wouldn't want to

759
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:19,500
alienate an alien and Say It Isn't So

760
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:21,960
all I can tell you is you believe what

761
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:23,760
you're saying I do

762
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:27,599
we now have an astronomer will back you

763
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:29,099
off I guess a whole bunch of them you

764
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,020
can't very well describe stars that have

765
00:47:35,089 --> 00:47:32,880
been discovered without some kind of

766
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,099
help we have

767
00:47:39,170 --> 00:47:37,740
scientist who's a doctor who wonder if

768
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:39,180
most of some of the techniques that he

769
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,420
believes were totally legitimate came

770
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:44,220
out with this story

771
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,140
showing at least it was in your mind it

772
00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:48,000
was very real decided it happened we

773
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,619
have the time Gap

774
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:52,079
for two hours have disappeared from your

775
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:55,260
lifetime until He restored them and now

776
00:48:00,410 --> 00:47:57,900
we have a polygraph which says you're

777
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:00,420
much more disturbed by General character

778
00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:02,760
questions than you are my questions

779
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:05,400
about the authenticity of your story

780
00:48:10,250 --> 00:48:08,760
we can't even with Steven Spielberg's

781
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:10,260
help we can't

782
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:12,540
produce the spacecraft but maybe someday

783
00:48:15,550 --> 00:48:14,040
somebody will and maybe they'll be